Discussion:
sipxecs-4.6.0: Framebuffer (or something) broken on first boot
Adrien Guillon
2012-10-11 15:35:09 UTC
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Hi,

I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now, and
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a framebuffer or
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware. Anyone
else experience this?

AJ
Tony Graziano
2012-10-11 15:38:29 UTC
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Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?

Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now, and
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a framebuffer or
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware. Anyone
else experience this?
AJ
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Adrien Guillon
2012-10-11 15:56:30 UTC
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It's an ISO install, 4.6.

Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the issue is
that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly.
Regardless of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the
sipxecs ISO, it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the
framebuffer if it doesn't work.

AJ


On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tony Graziano <
Post by Tony Graziano
Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?
Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now, and
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a framebuffer
or
Post by Adrien Guillon
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware.
Anyone
Post by Adrien Guillon
else experience this?
AJ
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Michael Picher
2012-10-11 16:10:06 UTC
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Well, you could use the RPM installation method and go that route... Then
you'd have full control over the installation.

Thanks,
Mike
Post by Adrien Guillon
It's an ISO install, 4.6.
Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the issue
is that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly.
Regardless of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the
sipxecs ISO, it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the
framebuffer if it doesn't work.
AJ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tony Graziano <
Post by Tony Graziano
Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?
Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now, and
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a framebuffer
or
Post by Adrien Guillon
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware.
Anyone
Post by Adrien Guillon
else experience this?
AJ
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Douglas Hubler
2012-10-11 17:18:33 UTC
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Post by Adrien Guillon
It's an ISO install, 4.6.
Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the issue is
that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly. Regardless
of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the sipxecs ISO,
it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the framebuffer if
it doesn't work.
Try installing CentOS 6 minimal ISO on the machine just to give us an
idea if it's centos or sipxecs. Either sipxecs or centos, you can hit
tab in the boot menu and change the installation parameters. All sort
of wacky options

http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/rhel6/rhel_6_installation/rhel_6_installation_ap-admin-options.html

Assuming you get that far. It's not clear exactly where "upon boot"
is that you're describing.
Tony Graziano
2012-10-11 17:34:36 UTC
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It's a centos issue.

It's probably a resolution issue. it's "still centos and your hardware"

let me google that FOR you...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=framebuffers+centos+6

the answer lies in "probably" changing grub.conf to match what the
hardware might support...

example:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.centos.plus ro root=LABEL=/ vga=0x305

Value of VGA :

0x307=1280x1024
0x305=1024x768
0x303=800x600
0x301=640x480

Something is probably calling hires mode (In centos, not linux).

Either way, it's a linux/centos hardware thing. I've never had this
issue but hardware remains pretty current all the time.

Good luck.
Post by Adrien Guillon
It's an ISO install, 4.6.
Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the issue is
that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly. Regardless
of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the sipxecs ISO,
it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the framebuffer if
it doesn't work.
AJ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tony Graziano
Post by Tony Graziano
Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?
Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now, and
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a framebuffer or
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware.
Anyone
else experience this?
AJ
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Adrien Guillon
2012-10-11 19:16:35 UTC
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I'll download a minimal CentOS install now to try to help narrow down the
problem to CentOS or SipX. Thanks for pointing out the potential install
parameters, if X runs during the install (which it did) I would assume that
the framebuffer would be alright.

Tony: I am well aware of how to change parameters and grub, and do not need
your help using Google. I am attempting to help a project isolate an issue
that is affecting me, and potentially others. This is me volunteering to
help a project I like in some small way, because I have a problem in front
of me that I can help debug.

Thanks.

AJ
Post by Tony Graziano
It's a centos issue.
It's probably a resolution issue. it's "still centos and your hardware"
let me google that FOR you...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=framebuffers+centos+6
the answer lies in "probably" changing grub.conf to match what the
hardware might support...
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.centos.plus ro root=LABEL=/ vga=0x305
0x307=1280x1024
0x305=1024x768
0x303=800x600
0x301=640x480
Something is probably calling hires mode (In centos, not linux).
Either way, it's a linux/centos hardware thing. I've never had this
issue but hardware remains pretty current all the time.
Good luck.
Post by Adrien Guillon
It's an ISO install, 4.6.
Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the issue
is
Post by Adrien Guillon
that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly.
Regardless
Post by Adrien Guillon
of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the sipxecs
ISO,
Post by Adrien Guillon
it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the framebuffer
if
Post by Adrien Guillon
it doesn't work.
AJ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tony Graziano
Post by Tony Graziano
Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?
Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now,
and
Post by Adrien Guillon
Post by Tony Graziano
Post by Adrien Guillon
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a
framebuffer
Post by Adrien Guillon
Post by Tony Graziano
Post by Adrien Guillon
or
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware.
Anyone
else experience this?
AJ
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Adrien Guillon
2012-10-11 21:19:25 UTC
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Okay, so I tried to CentOS 6.3 minimal install. The issue remains with a
normal install, however CentOS also has a low-end video mode, and that
install works just fine.

It might be worth considering, if simple enough, to add an option to SipX
to install CentOS in a low video mode. For now I can adjust GRUB, but
something to consider for future releases.

AJ
Post by Adrien Guillon
I'll download a minimal CentOS install now to try to help narrow down the
problem to CentOS or SipX. Thanks for pointing out the potential install
parameters, if X runs during the install (which it did) I would assume that
the framebuffer would be alright.
Tony: I am well aware of how to change parameters and grub, and do not
need your help using Google. I am attempting to help a project isolate an
issue that is affecting me, and potentially others. This is me
volunteering to help a project I like in some small way, because I have a
problem in front of me that I can help debug.
Thanks.
AJ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Tony Graziano <
Post by Tony Graziano
It's a centos issue.
It's probably a resolution issue. it's "still centos and your hardware"
let me google that FOR you...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=framebuffers+centos+6
the answer lies in "probably" changing grub.conf to match what the
hardware might support...
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.centos.plus ro root=LABEL=/ vga=0x305
0x307=1280x1024
0x305=1024x768
0x303=800x600
0x301=640x480
Something is probably calling hires mode (In centos, not linux).
Either way, it's a linux/centos hardware thing. I've never had this
issue but hardware remains pretty current all the time.
Good luck.
Post by Adrien Guillon
It's an ISO install, 4.6.
Yes, it could be an issue with my hardware and CentOS, however the
issue is
Post by Adrien Guillon
that not all hardware is going to support framebuffers properly.
Regardless
Post by Adrien Guillon
of whether the bug is in CentOS or the install scripts of the sipxecs
ISO,
Post by Adrien Guillon
it is still an issue that there is no option to disable the framebuffer
if
Post by Adrien Guillon
it doesn't work.
AJ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tony Graziano
Post by Tony Graziano
Realize you have not stated what version of sip and how you are
installing it. Is it sipx 4.4 or 4.6? Are you installing via RPM or
from ISO?
Typically it means your hardware has an issue with linux. If you know
what hardware you are using (we don't) and what version of sipx you
are installing (4.4 using centos 5.x and 4.6 uses centos 6.x), try
googling it. Even if it is garbled on your display, you have already
set the password and IP during the setup. This probably means you can
ssh to it and access sipxconfig. The video driver (assumed) is
something you can deal with separately I would think.
Post by Adrien Guillon
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a known bug. I've installed SipX twice now,
and
Post by Adrien Guillon
Post by Tony Graziano
Post by Adrien Guillon
upon booting the screen is completely garbled. I suspect a
framebuffer
Post by Adrien Guillon
Post by Tony Graziano
Post by Adrien Guillon
or
something is being used for boot, but it doesn't like my hardware.
Anyone
else experience this?
AJ
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