Discussion:
sipx really likes 1.5GB ram
Michael Scheidell
2012-08-15 12:27:52 UTC
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I recently moved sipx 4.4.0 off of an old dell 750 with 1gb ram. (it
was crashing, corrupted the postgres db to the point of no return)

I put it on an old dell 750 with 1.5Gb ram.

the gui is SO MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE as to be unbelievable.

35 users (including virtual users)

18 phones.

Mem: 1555052k total, 1514728k used, 40324k free, 282008k buffers
Swap: 6289436k total, 608k used, 6288828k free, 418468k cached
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Michael Picher
2012-08-15 12:54:45 UTC
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Well, 2 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.4.

4 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.6.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Michael Scheidell <
Post by Michael Scheidell
I recently moved sipx 4.4.0 off of an old dell 750 with 1gb ram. (it
was crashing, corrupted the postgres db to the point of no return)
I put it on an old dell 750 with 1.5Gb ram.
the gui is SO MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE as to be unbelievable.
35 users (including virtual users)
18 phones.
Mem: 1555052k total, 1514728k used, 40324k free, 282008k buffers
Swap: 6289436k total, 608k used, 6288828k free, 418468k cached
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Michael Scheidell
2012-08-15 12:59:02 UTC
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looks like I need a bigger box!
Post by Michael Picher
Well, 2 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.4.
4 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.6.
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Michael Scheidell
2012-08-15 13:00:48 UTC
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32 bit vs 64 bit?
or doesn't matter? 64bit usually take up more address space, best I can
tell.

any advantage to (on 4.4? 4.6)? backing up my 32bit, getting a 64bit
system, restoring it?
Post by Michael Picher
Well, 2 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.4.
4 GB is the minimum recommended for 4.6.
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Douglas Hubler
2012-08-15 13:25:15 UTC
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Michael Scheidell
Post by Michael Scheidell
32 bit vs 64 bit?
or doesn't matter? 64bit usually take up more address space, best I can
tell.
definitely 64 bit because mongo db strongly recommends it
Post by Michael Scheidell
any advantage to (on 4.4? 4.6)? backing up my 32bit, getting a 64bit system,
restoring it?
If the question is : Can I back up a 32bit 4.4 system and restore to
64bit 4.6 system? The answer is : yes, you can safely do that.
Robert B
2012-08-15 14:37:12 UTC
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It's the stupid JVM... All those java processes gobble up memory for
seemingly nothing more than shits and giggles. (Or it's remnant of the
days when Sun sold servers and they wanted you to buy as much of their
overpriced RAM as your wallet could tolerate.)

This isn't a sipx issue, of course. I just strongly dislike java.

-- Robert
I recently moved sipx 4.4.0 off of an old dell 750 with 1gb ram. (it
was crashing, corrupted the postgres db to the point of no return)
I put it on an old dell 750 with 1.5Gb ram.
the gui is SO MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE as to be unbelievable.
35 users (including virtual users)
18 phones.
Mem: 1555052k total, 1514728k used, 40324k free, 282008k buffers
Swap: 6289436k total, 608k used, 6288828k free, 418468k cached
Tony Graziano
2012-08-15 16:37:25 UTC
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Old argument. I've made it myself. Not sure the motive was to make people
buy more memory, just how they wanted to make everything "in memory" and
less dependent on storage. It's a two-edged sword for sure though.
Post by Robert B
It's the stupid JVM... All those java processes gobble up memory for
seemingly nothing more than shits and giggles. (Or it's remnant of the days
when Sun sold servers and they wanted you to buy as much of their
overpriced RAM as your wallet could tolerate.)
This isn't a sipx issue, of course. I just strongly dislike java.
-- Robert
I recently moved sipx 4.4.0 off of an old dell 750 with 1gb ram. (it was
crashing, corrupted the postgres db to the point of no return)
I put it on an old dell 750 with 1.5Gb ram.
the gui is SO MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE as to be unbelievable.
35 users (including virtual users)
18 phones.
Mem: 1555052k total, 1514728k used, 40324k free, 282008k buffers
Swap: 6289436k total, 608k used, 6288828k free, 418468k cached
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Michael Scheidell
2012-08-15 16:42:15 UTC
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I worked for a company that sold 'real time' tools (real time as in,
missile control, fly by wire, nuclear containment)

if the tank for 'hot', you need to start the process (automatically) to
pull the rods in 50 us (microseconds)

someone came up with a 'real time java'. the biggest problem with java,
is garbage(string/memory) collection.

it's really pittiful.. you hear see the engineers at DOS, DISA, NASA,
United Defense, laugh when you talk about 'real time java'
Post by Tony Graziano
Old argument. I've made it myself. Not sure the motive was to make
people buy more memory, just how they wanted to make everything "in
memory" and less dependent on storage. It's a two-edged sword for sure
though.
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Joegen Baclor
2012-08-15 16:56:48 UTC
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you hear see the engineers at DOS, DISA, NASA, United Defense, laugh
when you talk about 'real time java'
Really not a place to ridicule a tool where such tool shined. (coming
from a C++ perspective)
Michael Scheidell
2012-08-15 17:17:45 UTC
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Post by Joegen Baclor
you hear see the engineers at DOS, DISA, NASA, United Defense, laugh
when you talk about 'real time java'
Really not a place to ridicule a tool where such tool shined. (coming
from a C++ perspective)
it didn't... real time java crashed and burned. the BEST real time
tools were from QNX, windriver (vxworks), and VenturCom (rtx)

vxworks and QNX on the unix(ish) side, VenturCom on the windows side.

I was CEO of Florida Datamation, largest distributor of QNX in the
world, I was business development director at VentureCom, in charge of
the factory automation, real time market.
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